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The mere mortals’ guide to setting up Gmail with Thunderbird

After throwing my toys out of the cot regarding Google’s attempts to shoehorn stupid features into their mail offering in an attempt to turn email into something it’s not, I thought I’d blog the settings I use in both the Gmail web interface and Thunderbird to get it behaving sanely over IMAP.

So, if you’d like to use Thunderbird with Gmail and be able to do the following:

  • deal with a single copy of each mail item
  • be able to sort that copy into a folder
  • delete mail items and have them go into a Trash folder, which you can then empty
  • just generally and basically have it work without it getting in the way…

Then read on!

 

I am using Thunderbird 9.0 on OpenIndiana oi_151a, and a Google Apps account for my Gmail. I am assuming you have first already enabled IMAP support in Gmail, but have yet to create an IMAP connection to it in Thunderbird.

 

First, let’s prevent Gmail’s new, “special” folders from appearing in Thunderbird. This a) reduces a great deal of interface confusion for Thunderbird users, and b) prevents a duplicate copy of every single email from being created in Thunderbird thanks to the “All Mail” folder. Don’t think too hard about it, just log into the Gmail web interface, go to Settings -> Labels, and apply the settings as highlighted in the following:

Gmail settings - disable Labels for IMAP users

 

Next, configure an IMAP connection to your Gmail account in Thunderbird. Once the account is visible in your client, make particular note of the set of folders visible under the funny-looking “[Gmail]“ folder – it should look like the following:

Gmail special folders in Thunderbird

 

Now let’s configure Thunderbird such that when you delete an email, it goes into the Gmail Trash folder, and from there if you empty the Trash folder, the message is permanently deleted. No, don’t ask why I am stating the bloody obvious, just observe the following settings for the Gmail account in Thunderbird (and note that this runs counter to the completely bizarre “recommended IMAP settings” Google would have you use). Make sure that the Trash folder you reference is the one that sits under the [Gmail] folder:

Trash settings in Thunderbird for Gmail

Test this by deleting a message from your Inbox or whatever – it should go into the [Gmail] -> Trash folder, and you should be able to right click on that folder and empty it to permanently delete items.

 

Disable Thunderbird’s junk email detection for the Gmail account:

Thunderbird - disable Junk email detection for Gmail accounts

 

Finally, and this is referenced in Google’s documentation, if you are sending mail out through Google’s SMTP server, then make sure that you are not also saving a copy in the Sent Mail folder for the account. Again confusing, because this is naturally what you would want to do for an IMAP account – but as it happens Gmail will save a copy automatically in the [Gmail] -> Sent Mail folder if you use their outbound server (which I do). I use the following settings for copies of sent mail, and any other copies:

Disable saving copies of sent mail for Gmail in Thunderbird

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Posted by davekoelmeyer on January 26, 2012

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