Illumos Panel Discussion – some highlights

Really interesting set of videos recorded during a recent gathering of the minds behind the companies developing and using Illumos, including Garrett D’Amore (of Nexenta), Adam Leventhal (of Delphix) and Bryan Cantrill (of Joyent), amongst others. These people represent the star talent behind some revolutionary technology developed at Sun Microsystems as used in Solaris and OpenSolaris.

You can find the full set of videos on Deirdré Straughan’s YouTube channel. I found the comments made in the fifth part especially juicy:

An excerpt of some of the comments:

“What I’ve seen on the mailing list is actually a higher level of support than I think frankly Oracle’s own customers were getting at Oracle…if you ask a question about DTrace, you’re going to get the authors of DTrace involved very often, just by asking a question on the list.” Garrett D’Amore (asked about support)

“Right now…we have extensions to DTrace for example that cannot go back into Solaris. Oracle would be violating – in an act of poetic justice – the license that they themselves created, if they took that back.”
– Bryan Cantrill

“They’ve made a lot of changes
[in Solaris 11] that frankly I would not take, that I think are unnecessary changes. Solaris 11 I think is going to be a real opportunity for Illumos.” – Bryan Cantrill

[Solaris 11] represents a huge departure from Solaris 10. So, it’s going to ask the customers who are on Solaris 10 ‘do you want to invest a tremendous amount of time going to Solaris 11, going to Linux, or going to something else?’.” – Adam Leventhal

“Solaris 11 is mutating into what some people would call the bootloader for the Oracle database. Oracle’s priorities are clearly way different from what Sun’s were…I would not be entirely unsurprised if it turns that out you can’t actually license Solaris 11 separately…I would be actually very surprised if there’s ever a Solaris 12.”
– Garrett D’Amore

“There’s a huge installed base of Sun hardware out there in datacenters around the world, billions of dollars worth of equipment, and Oracle has basically given it the finger.”
– Garrett D’Amore

“Oracle has removed sun4u from Solaris 11. So there is no sun4u support in Solaris 11, which means that there is this huge amount of hardware, this installed base (anything earlier than a year or two ago) that can’t run, will not run Solaris 11 at all. And that’s a huge Illumos opportunity.” – Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal


Meanwhile, Larry Ellison is suing his neighbour over some trees blocking his view.



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